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PiscesGlass
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« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2009, 09:06:25 PM »
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Yes, I must admit I rubbed the heck out of mine too, maybe I just didn't wait long enough for the oxidation to happen.  Although it's plenty oxidized now.
But I will try the softer brush approach.  Thanks,

De
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« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2009, 10:16:36 PM »
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Yes, I must admit I rubbed the heck out of mine too, maybe I just didn't wait long enough for the oxidation to happen.  Although it's plenty oxidized now.
But I will try the softer brush approach.  Thanks,

De

As will I!

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« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2009, 12:54:58 AM »
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unforthuantely, it has to be done while the lead light cement is still "wet"

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PiscesGlass
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« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2009, 06:16:31 AM »
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Yep, that's when I did it.

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« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2009, 09:13:54 AM »
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I purchased a cheap shoe shine brush at Walmart and worked great. The lead became dark and even the solder darkened but not as dark as the lead but after time it looks great.
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« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2009, 02:07:03 PM »
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The solder will be a bit brighter than the came, but it no time it oxidizes and will dull to pretty much the same color as the lead came.

Lead work, cemented and polished as Stephen says will "darken" both the came and the solder. They didn't start out the same colour, because they are different metals, and whether you patina them both or just cement and polish them both, they still won't end up perfectly matched.

The only way to get it all black and matching is to paint it, and that's just plain dumb.

Given time, the solder will naturally develop it's own "patina" and if subjected to cement and elbow grease it will develop a pretty close match, as indicated by Kev.

Some say it's "wrong" to patina leaded work. It's not wrong, it's just unnecessary. It's wrong not to cement, and once you've cemented it's just so much easier to clean it up, brush it (which it needs anyway), and hang it up. No wax-polish required!

No it won't be "black". It'll just look like lead. Well I'll be damned!! We made it from lead and it looks like lead. That can't be all bad, can it??

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« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2009, 09:34:22 AM »
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The pieces "look" good, BUT. The one with the curly-cues will probably start to bend out of shape under its own weight in time. Unless it's reinforced with wire or something. The diamond panel has the rings soldered to straight piece of lead, that will probably pull the lead off in time.

Patina is an acid that will corrode the lead if not totally neutralized. Which is hard to do as it seeps under the lead flanges. Also consider that most glass is meant to be viewed with back lighting. When the sun shines through the glass ALL the solder seams/lead came turn black regardless of the surface color.
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« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2009, 11:35:46 AM »
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What type of putty did you use?  That might affect the darkness of the lead and solder after brushing.  And patina will also attack the putty if it stays in contact with it.

And, yeah, move the hanging rings to the corners.  But they look good.

Rebecca
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