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« on: April 28, 2009, 09:00:06 AM »
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We had out first TELEVENT last night and it was a success. We had a pretty good turn out, and everyone took a bit of information away with them that they did not have before. We extend a hardy thank you to Vic for taking the time to share his thoughts, expertise, and wisdom with us. 

THANKS VIC !!!


Look forward to future announcements for out next TELEVENT.

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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2009, 09:17:54 AM »
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I'm so embarrassed, I missed the event  undecided, I'm feeling pretty disappointed in myself that I let that slip by. I guess I got sidetracked with the husband coming home... thought I was a bit more organized then that and it's my loss. I was really excited for the event, hope everyone enjoyed it and I'm sure you all got something out of it! Darn.....
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2009, 09:57:11 AM »
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Sorry you didn't make it Amber, but don't be too rough on yourself..there will be more speakers, and I believe Vic will speak again at some time.
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2009, 04:04:42 PM »
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Yes the event was a complete success and we all learned a great deal. It was a lot of fun, thanks so much Vic.
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2009, 05:49:06 PM »
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I don't know if this is the right place, but I wanted to say something about Joan's question that said that teachers should teach more about reinforcement.  I do try to bring it into my classes.  I have a really weak little piece with lots of hinges that I show my classes.  I take it in my hands and it does a back bend.  And I always show them the repairs that I am working on and show them rebar, saddle bars, whatever I have around.  And I show them windows that are bending and bowing and talk about why.  But most students don't really learn until they want to do a project that needs some help.  I have had students that were in the same class come in the next week and one swears that I told them something and the other swears I didn't.  So in that case, I don't think it's my fault.  And I have some students that just want to make something out of stained glass just to say they did, and next month they will take basket weaving or cake decorating or tole painting or... and they don't really want to learn anything or have a skill they can use later. 

So I say, yes, the teacher should teach, but the students also have to be ready to learn.

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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2009, 06:39:44 PM »
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I don't know if this is the right place, but I wanted to say something about Joan's question that said that teachers should teach more about reinforcement.  I do try to bring it into my classes.  I have a really weak little piece with lots of hinges that I show my classes.  I take it in my hands and it does a back bend.  And I always show them the repairs that I am working on and show them rebar, saddle bars, whatever I have around.  And I show them windows that are bending and bowing and talk about why.  But most students don't really learn until they want to do a project that needs some help.  I have had students that were in the same class come in the next week and one swears that I told them something and the other swears I didn't.  So in that case, I don't think it's my fault.  And I have some students that just want to make something out of stained glass just to say they did, and next month they will take basket weaving or cake decorating or tole painting or... and they don't really want to learn anything or have a skill they can use later. 

So I say, yes, the teacher should teach, but the students also have to be ready to learn.

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Rebecca, I know that there are great teachers out there, and shop owners too (you being one of them). 

My daughter and I took classes together, and worked at the same work table in the shop where the classes were held.  She designed and constructed what looked to be a beautful mirror.  When the entire project was complete, and she was ready to bring it home, it broke.  Naturally my daugther was upset.  Not at the teacher but that it broke.  The teacher never once told her that she should reconsized the design or that it needed reinforcement.

The teacher (in a nasty tone of voice) told 2 of the other students it was my daugther's fault that it broke, cause it was a weak design.  Well, the way I look at it, the teacher should have instructed her as to how to make it stronger, or to scrape the design all together. 

That is why I have a bad feeling about teachers who don't teach re-inforcement.  Students who are showing an interest in going further than a one time first piece, should be instructed and not left to fend for themselves to learn everything the hard way.  It would be different if a person is renting usage of the studio and tools, but "classes" means that someone is supposed to be teaching. 

I know that you teach, and do a great job at it, just by the way you take the time to explain an answer to a question on the forums.  And there will always be students who say "no one ever told me that", but after following the forums for almost 2 years now, it does seem that this "hinge" issue has been missed by far to many teachers.  Being still fairly new at glass and glass design concepts when I found the forums, I was shocked to hear about hinges and would have never known to even ask the question of my teacher at the time, without the forum. 

I thank my lucky stars to have found the forums because I know my design knowledge and ability has improved because of them and they are "Free"  (wish we had the little smily that bows down LOL)
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2009, 06:52:41 PM »
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(wish we had the little smily that bows down LOL)

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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2009, 07:30:01 PM »
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I consider that the 1st Televent on AOG was a big success.  It was wonderful to hear Vic speak his thoughts on construction of SG and some of the history.  My friend, and student, who was listening was totally amazed at the fabulous knowledge that this gentleman has and his sharing of it with us.
I can speak for myself, and probably many others who listened Monday night, that I learned some things I was never taught in class, that will help me do a much better job on my leaded work.  Thanks for the tips Vic! 
And thank you for taking time out of your evening to share your thoughts and practical working knowledge with us all!

It was just wonderful!  De
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2009, 07:42:28 PM »
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Thanks guys, it was fun. Even though I missed "2 1/2 Men" on TV
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2009, 08:49:45 PM »
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You're right De, Vic can explain things well, can't he?

And you're right Joan, the teacher should have caught the weak design and explained it to your daughter BEFORE there was a problem.  I know there are bad teachers, too.  The very first class I took, there were about twenty students (I won't have more than four at a time) and the teacher did the minimum she could.  I also took a terrible class from Vicki Payne once.  She was the WORST teacher in any subject I EVER had. 

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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2009, 11:15:50 PM »
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I guess many of us had a bad experience with teachers. Mine was more interested in her commission pieces than teaching us. I for one learned a great deal from Monday nights televent all of which was never touched by the teacher I had.

Vic next time tape 2 1/2 men and watch it later...lol  thats one of my husbands favorites too.
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2009, 01:09:39 AM »
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 embarrassed  Whaaaaaaa! I missed it. Not spending all day reading glass sites has been good for getting me out into the studio, but not good for missing stuff like this. I am so sorry I did not know about this . Last I read we were suggesting questions. Whaaaaaaaaaa , my loss.

  This looks like a good self pity smiley  smileys12

 laugh I am glad it went so well!
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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2009, 06:38:22 AM »
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(wish we had the little smily that bows down LOL)

Ask and ye shall receive  Bow



Thanks Alan, you're the best
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