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« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2009, 03:42:31 PM » |
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Very Nice Tre, It's looking like you got something out of the class. The last class I went to the instructor oiled the glass to cut it and used a dry cutter. I just shook my head in disbelief
Glaziers who cut big sheets of glass typically draw a line of kerosene on the glass to lube dry cutters before they had oil filled cutters. I don't use oil cutters (I cut dry, dip sometimes) so I use this method when cutting or stripping long 3-5 foot pieces.
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« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2009, 06:30:00 AM » |
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Very Nice Tre, It's looking like you got something out of the class. The last class I went to the instructor oiled the glass to cut it and used a dry cutter. I just shook my head in disbelief
Glaziers who cut big sheets of glass typically draw a line of kerosene on the glass to lube dry cutters before they had oil filled cutters. I don't use oil cutters (I cut dry, dip sometimes) so I use this method when cutting or stripping long 3-5 foot pieces. Vic, I thought that dipping the cutter preserved the cutter wheel? Is that not true? Curious, what is to much when it comes to cutting oil? My first teacher used to make us wipe the oil off the glass is the wheel was to wet from oil, saying we had way to much oil.
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« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2009, 08:46:11 AM » |
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I have never tried it, but there used to be (probably still is) a clear UV protectant in the "Color Magic" glass paints. I wonder if that were painted on the geode it would prevent the dye from fading.
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« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2009, 09:28:25 AM » |
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Very Nice Tre, It's looking like you got something out of the class. The last class I went to the instructor oiled the glass to cut it and used a dry cutter. I just shook my head in disbelief
Glaziers who cut big sheets of glass typically draw a line of kerosene on the glass to lube dry cutters before they had oil filled cutters. I don't use oil cutters (I cut dry, dip sometimes) so I use this method when cutting or stripping long 3-5 foot pieces. Vic, I thought that dipping the cutter preserved the cutter wheel? Is that not true? Curious, what is to much when it comes to cutting oil? My first teacher used to make us wipe the oil off the glass is the wheel was to wet from oil, saying we had way to much oil. Storing the cutter in a lubricate will prevent rust and make the wheel turn smoothly. Wetting a long score with kerosene (lube) also makes the wheel turn better and actually helps to "open" the score. I would not recommend oils, they ten to be heavy and messy. Kerosene lubes and evaporates quickly
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« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2009, 09:47:21 AM » |
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Gee...all these hints....Vic....it's obvious you have a lot of knowledge in this art...I appreciate all you share with us, as with Graham's knowledge as well...thanks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2009, 02:25:40 PM » |
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I second what Kev just said. I just wish I could remember all this stuff, or even that it is here when I need it down the road. Thanks Vic.
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« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2009, 02:39:11 PM » |
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thanks Vic, that makes sense now. Sometimes we are only half told things and just take for granted the teacher knows what they are talking about. Now I know why my second teacher used kerosene and not cutting oil. I just always thought it was cause it may be a bit cheaper
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« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2009, 04:08:43 PM » |
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thanks Vic, that makes sense now. Sometimes we are only half told things and just take for granted the teacher knows what they are talking about. Now I know why my second teacher used kerosene and not cutting oil. I just always thought it was cause it may be a bit cheaper
Kerosene is the preferred cutting oil. Take the word of the makers of the best cutters - Toyo. The only people who think that other cutting oils are better than kerosene are the people who make the other cutting oils. Kerosene is not a bit cheaper. It's a whole bunch cheaper. You can buy a quart for the same price as a few ounces of "cutter oil" and it's handy to have around the house for other purposes.
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« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2009, 04:34:01 PM » |
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Well maybe we can get Vic and Graham to post their tips in the Tips thread we all would have them to use without hunting for them later. What do you think guys??
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« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2009, 06:30:57 PM » |
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Kerosene is not a bit cheaper. It's a whole bunch cheaper. You can buy a quart for the same price as a few ounces of "cutter oil" and it's handy to have around the house for other purposes. [/quote] As a sidenote I remember my mom mentioning another use for kerosene. She grew up on a farm in Arkansas during the depression, when folks didn't just run to the doctor. She gashed her leg open on a fence in the barnyard, which before tetanus shots was a sure bet for lockjaw. My grandfather cleaned the cut with kerosene, and ..no infection of any sort. Not a treatment I would recommend, but interesting folk medicine.
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« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2009, 08:33:53 PM » |
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thanks Vic, that makes sense now. Sometimes we are only half told things and just take for granted the teacher knows what they are talking about. Now I know why my second teacher used kerosene and not cutting oil. I just always thought it was cause it may be a bit cheaper
Kerosene is the preferred cutting oil. Take the word of the makers of the best cutters - Toyo. The only people who think that other cutting oils are better than kerosene are the people who make the other cutting oils. Kerosene is not a bit cheaper. It's a whole bunch cheaper. You can buy a quart for the same price as a few ounces of "cutter oil" and it's handy to have around the house for other purposes. Graham, I stand corrected, LOL, don't know what I was thinking, of course it is a bunch cheaper than cutting oil. Duh, must have been having a real bad senior moment LOL
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« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2009, 08:08:15 AM » |
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Kerosene is not a bit cheaper. It's a whole bunch cheaper. You can buy a quart for the same price as a few ounces of "cutter oil" and it's handy to have around the house for other purposes. As a sidenote I remember my mom mentioning another use for kerosene. She grew up on a farm in Arkansas during the depression, when folks didn't just run to the doctor. She gashed her leg open on a fence in the barnyard, which before tetanus shots was a sure bet for lockjaw. My grandfather cleaned the cut with kerosene, and ..no infection of any sort. Not a treatment I would recommend, but interesting folk medicine. [/quote] It made me cringe just thinking about it. I'm sure it cleaned it well but hurt like hell!
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« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2009, 08:26:45 AM » |
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My grandmother used turpentine instead.
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