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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2012, 11:37:18 AM » |
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Bless you! This is my weakest skill.
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2012, 03:13:03 PM » |
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Good info, Stephen. It's nice to read a consolidated and well edited version/description. Now, all we have to do is put it into action. - Tod
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2012, 04:05:21 PM » |
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Clearly written and tells you why you should solder a certain way, that helps a lot. Thanks for sharing.
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2012, 06:10:25 PM » |
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Thanks for sharing -- I like learning more of the "science" of working with glass and solder.
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2012, 06:14:21 AM » |
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Even working with electronics most of my life and doing stained glass, soldering is still my greatest weakness mostly do to my laziness in taking the time to make sure everything is cleaned properly. (rush,rush,rush)
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2012, 07:32:03 AM » |
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Stephen, you have very much covered all the very important tech info that is usually not explained that clearly during a class. That info usually comes in waves from many instructors. Not all instructors even explain the reasons for "why", clean is important, nor do they explain what makes a "bad bead". I remember one batch of solder I had gotten, (my usual brand) for the life of me, I could not get a bead to run. Someone had suggested sticking the solder into a bath of flux, and WOW oh WOW, beautiful bead.
If I may make one suggestion of something you could add, Stephen. What about the way the solder must flow between the pieces to make a secure connection? The reason I say this is, is that once I got going with this wonderful art, I wanted as thin a seperation between my pieces of glass as possible. Well, low and behold, I began to weaken my panels because my pieces were far to "tight", and in doing so, the bead merely sat on top of the foil and the bottom, and little to none was getting between the 2 pieces. Hope I explained it clearly.
When I started out, I had a terrible time making a decent bead. When I think of the solder I waisted back then I could cry LOL
One day I happen to be a the studio where I took my lessons, to purchase some supplies, and the owner was soldering. I watched her intently, and bingo, a light went off as to how I should be holding the iron and solder feed. Once we learn the whys and hows, practice is the next thing.
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2012, 12:59:09 PM » |
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If I may make one suggestion of something you could add, Stephen. What about the way the solder must flow between the pieces to make a secure connection? The reason I say this is, is that once I got going with this wonderful art, I wanted as thin a seperation between my pieces of glass as possible. Well, low and behold, I began to weaken my panels because my pieces were far to "tight", and in doing so, the bead merely sat on top of the foil and the bottom, and little to none was getting between the 2 pieces. Hope I explained it clearly.
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Stay tuned, the next three instalments are coming out throughout January. Yes I do deal with the making of a "came" with the solder. If you have other suggestions or criticisms please post them. Stephen |
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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2012, 03:13:37 PM » |
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this is great info...thanks Stephan
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2012, 07:10:49 AM » |
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If I may make one suggestion of something you could add, Stephen. What about the way the solder must flow between the pieces to make a secure connection? The reason I say this is, is that once I got going with this wonderful art, I wanted as thin a seperation between my pieces of glass as possible. Well, low and behold, I began to weaken my panels because my pieces were far to "tight", and in doing so, the bead merely sat on top of the foil and the bottom, and little to none was getting between the 2 pieces. Hope I explained it clearly.
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Stay tuned, the next three instalments are coming out throughout January. Yes I do deal with the making of a "came" with the solder. If you have other suggestions or criticisms please post them. Stephen No criticism intended, Thanks, |
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2012, 07:41:08 AM » |
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Joan,
Criticism is good if given with the intent to help. So I invite criticism in that vein.
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2012, 06:37:36 PM » |
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Part two is interesting also, but my head is spinning with all the chemical combinations for solder -- who knew????? Certainly not me :)
Will finish the section on flux tomorrow morning when my head is clearer -- made two loaves of asiago bread today, so am full and sleepy now....................
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2012, 05:26:31 PM » |
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made two loaves of asiago bread today, so am full and sleepy now....................
way more interesting than flux. |
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2012, 02:37:49 PM » |
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Yummm...... mangiare!  |
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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2012, 05:24:50 PM » |
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Lots of information. Thanks Stephen. Now I have to pull my bottle and see what I've been using!
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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2012, 06:48:52 PM » |
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Okay...I have a question. ....it says to never melt the solder with the tip of the iron but instead on the heated object being soldered. I've never done that before. I always run the soldering iron along the joint with the solder at the tip of the iron to melt it.
How does everyone else do it?
Maybe I can learn a better way for me to solder, because I do not enjoy it at all.
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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2012, 07:10:26 PM » |
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This is the information I received from the professionals. It applies both ot electronics and heavy soldering.
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« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2012, 07:32:32 PM » |
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Ah...I see...I can see that making sense for soldering copper piping where you can really heat up the metal, but suspect glass would crack being heated enough to melt the solder.
Thanks for clarifying that Stephen.
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« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2012, 08:03:46 PM » |
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I always run the soldering iron along the joint with the solder at the tip of the iron to melt it.
How does everyone else do it?
Maybe I can learn a better way for me to solder, because I do not not enjoy it at all.
Me too, although I'm still struggling with clean solder lines. |
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