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« on: August 01, 2011, 03:42:13 PM » |
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I have been kicking an idea around that I am not sure if it would be advisable or not. So I would love to get some feed back about
As you know I have just had a deck constructed on the front of my home.
I would like to have a frame made to suspend some windows from. I was considering having it made out of rebar. I will have them drill into the railing post to secure the uprights. The mosaic windows will hang from the cross bar.
The mosaics will be on some of the old multi paned wooden windows
Would I have to secure them at the bottom also, or could I leave them free?
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2011, 03:47:53 PM » |
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Re-bar will rapidly rust and give your nice new deck some ugly rust stains - you should use something that will not rust or react with the adverse weather conditions - dunno what exactly that would be, perhaps aluminum?
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2011, 05:01:03 PM » |
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what about some big eye hooks - or the hooks that have a closing. Sorry don't know what they're called but wouldn't think they'd rust like rebar.
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2011, 05:10:39 PM » |
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I would think winter winds would really beat them up if they are free swinging.
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2011, 07:24:47 PM » |
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Boy Joan I was thinking along the same lines...this is what I was thinking. They have these flag holders on the same concept as a Shepard Hook but with a cross bar to hang the flag. I would have it attached to one of the deck supports and I would take it down in the winter months. The problem I had was how to keep the panel from free swaying.
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2011, 08:36:54 PM » |
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Kev, I would of course take them down in the winter, and probably remove them if we have any severe high wind thunderstorm warning
Alan, you are right, the regular rebar rusts terribly, but my ex does all kinds of metal work, so he will be able to point me in right direction as to what kind of metal to use.
Great minds think alike Di.
Hopefully someone will come along with the info on securing the bottom. I am gonna draw up a concept and see what my ex has to offer from his vast knowledge
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2011, 10:57:52 PM » |
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This is something I've seen, but not done personally. I have a friend who put a hot tub atop his garage/workshop. He surrounded it with wooden fence and used glass/on/glass panels for partial privacy. Looks really neat.
Panels were attached at the top by shackles and eyes. The bottom was attached with small springs. The springs held the panels in place, but they gave a little when buffeted by wind or bumped by bathers. It seemed to work well.
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2011, 08:55:54 AM » |
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I am thinking that a structure attached just to the railing will put too much stress on the railing. If I were doing it, I would have made the vertical supports for the deck tall enough to go through the railing and hold a cross-piece for hanging the windows. I assume the vertical supports are anchored in concrete in the ground. If attached just to the railing, it would be okay for a few years, but over time would twist and split the railing.
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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2011, 11:26:15 AM » |
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This is something I've seen, but not done personally. I have a friend who put a hot tub atop his garage/workshop. He surrounded it with wooden fence and used glass/on/glass panels for partial privacy. Looks really neat.
Panels were attached at the top by shackles and eyes. The bottom was attached with small springs. The springs held the panels in place, but they gave a little when buffeted by wind or bumped by bathers. It seemed to work well.
Thanks Graham, the springs sound like a great way to secure the panels. Will keep that in mind. |
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2011, 11:29:10 AM » |
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I am thinking that a structure attached just to the railing will put too much stress on the railing. If I were doing it, I would have made the vertical supports for the deck tall enough to go through the railing and hold a cross-piece for hanging the windows. I assume the vertical supports are anchored in concrete in the ground. If attached just to the railing, it would be okay for a few years, but over time would twist and split the railing.
Rebecca
Rebecca, The up rights would be inserted into the 4x4 posts, not attached to the top of the rails. You are right, just putting something like that on top of the rails, it would in time weaken the rails and probably cause the frame to malfunction, great point |
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2011, 10:28:25 PM » |
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If you paint re-bar it doesn't rust.
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2011, 07:17:11 AM » |
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If you paint re-bar it doesn't rust.
But you will have to maintain the paint or rust will happen. |
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2011, 10:03:00 PM » |
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How hard can it be to paint a couple of feet of re-bar every couple of years. Not to mention if you do a really good job at installation the paint will last a long time. Paint it with an epoxy paint it may even out last most of us.
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2011, 06:35:34 AM » |
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Not hard at all, Jim, but you'd be surprised how many people don't think about it until the rust has taken over. Epoxy paint, if applied properly and with the proper primer, can last a very long time.
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2011, 09:36:25 AM » |
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If, Ifs and Buts were Candy and Nuts we would all have a Merry Christmas! 8^)
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« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2011, 09:27:29 AM » |
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« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2011, 05:48:55 PM » |
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If my nose was running money honey, I'd blow it all on you, but it's not!!! 8^)
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« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2011, 04:00:43 PM » |
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That is beautiful, thanks for sharing!
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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2011, 04:08:13 PM » |
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Panels were attached at the top by shackles and eyes. The bottom was attached with small springs. The springs held the panels in place, but they gave a little when buffeted by wind or bumped by bathers. It seemed to work well.
Oh I like that idea! |
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« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2011, 05:41:17 PM » |
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it's a great idea and a lovely 'window'.
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« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2011, 05:21:11 AM » |
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What about copper pipe? you can choose from several sizes and solder it in any configuration you like. I believe there are even base plates as in threaded pipe for anchoring to a flat surface. It also compliments the glass art.
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« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2011, 08:49:11 AM » |
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Very nice! Don't you just love a nice splash of color!
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« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2011, 12:25:58 PM » |
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I love the copper pipe idea but the price of copper is really high right now. We have an electrician in the family and he is really squirming.
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« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2011, 10:28:18 PM » |
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That looks both very pretty and sturdy too. I love the frame and the mosaic is just so colorful! Nice!!
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« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2011, 03:37:22 AM » |
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very nice Laura.
Judy, the strange thing about copper is, is that when copper prices were up, the price per lb of scrap copper was usually up there too. Now, not so much. The thing of it is all metal is up and over the top in prices now.
Look how solder jumped out of site in past few years. Yet according to a recent show on TV the price should have come down drastically with the on flux of recycled car batteries
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