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« on: March 18, 2009, 08:55:21 PM »
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Once I finish the sidelight project - here is what I'm going to present to the customer as a starting point for the next thing they want me to do. Overall size a about 45" wide by 52" high (and of course the opening is NOT square or plumb). I'm thinking of making it 4 separate panels inside a wood frame of approx 1" Oak (inside routed 1/4" deep to accept each panel) - custom sized to match the opening. The brown borders in the picture represent the Oak framing.
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2009, 09:07:24 PM »
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Nice design Alan!  And putting it in a wood frame like that should help with the fact that the opening may not be as "square" as it should be.  What a big job this one will be...phew!!!

Will look forward to your pics of this one in progress!  De
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2009, 09:15:27 PM »
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That is really nice... the framing will definitely help with the issues of the window -- I am planning to do something in my own guest room and the only way we figured we could get it to work was a frame because it is so far out of square it isn't funny...

can't wait to see how it comes together
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2009, 10:16:27 PM »
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This is going to be really nice Alan.  Looking forward to watching the work in progress.  Gee, if we built panels the way some contractors built their windows they'd scream their heads off.  Pretty shoddy workmanship today from some people!!

The separate panels are a great idea and a lot easier to work with. I hope the customers like it and you don't have to do a bunch of reworking. 
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2009, 10:44:08 PM »
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Alan, I love the pattern and the idea of 4 panels. I hope the customer loves it because it will be fun seeing this one in finished and in the sunlight.
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2009, 10:47:34 PM »
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Very nice Alan. Lets go ahead and blame the lack of square on the building settling..why not?
   If I may ask one of those "idiot" questions, because I'm not very spatial or mechanical, and let's see if I can even phrase this in a way that makes sense. When you create a design that is going to be divided up into sections like this one, do you
draw the whole pattern and cut it into 4 pieces and make no allowances for the mullions, or do you cut out that part of the pattern that is the 1/2"  (or whatever) of the wood frame?  I have a hard time envisioning the difference in perspective and figuring out which way is right. I'm guessing, remove that section that would be covered by the mullions were it one whole piece?
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2009, 07:14:36 AM »
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Nice and colorful Alan! Have the prospective owners seen it yet? It will be fun to see you building this.
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2009, 08:22:32 AM »
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I LOVE the design. The four pieces should be great. Can't wait to see how it comes out.
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2009, 08:52:59 AM »
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love the design Alan 
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2009, 10:34:41 AM »
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When you create a design that is going to be divided up into sections like this one, do you draw the whole pattern and cut it into 4 pieces and make no allowances for the mullions, or do you cut out that part of the pattern that is the 1/2"  (or whatever) of the wood frame?  I have a hard time envisioning the difference in perspective and figuring out which way is right. I'm guessing, remove that section that would be covered by the mullions were it one whole piece?
Everything done in Glasseye. Actually I attempted to just quarter the original drawing, but then discovered that the horizon was too close to horizontal bar, so I then started playing around with making the lighthouse larger and then I ran into another problem, the verticals seemed out of place. So I got rid of the quartering lines and exported the pattern as a picture, used that picture as a background. Built the 'wood' frame to approximate size, then positioned the frame over the background and manually traced in each section, starting with the lighthouse and then moved the whole thing over the background until I had the boat and setting sun where I wanted them and traced the rest in. Glasseye makes this part of the task a whole lot easier.

Have the prospective owners seen it yet?
Not yet - want to wait a bit until I get more of the sidelights done.
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2009, 10:57:55 AM »
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Great design, Alan.  And yeah, don't we just love GlassEye??

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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2009, 11:35:47 AM »
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When you create a design that is going to be divided up into sections like this one, do you draw the whole pattern and cut it into 4 pieces and make no allowances for the mullions, or do you cut out that part of the pattern that is the 1/2"  (or whatever) of the wood frame?  I have a hard time envisioning the difference in perspective and figuring out which way is right. I'm guessing, remove that section that would be covered by the mullions were it one whole piece?
Everything done in Glasseye. Actually I attempted to just quarter the original drawing, but then discovered that the horizon was too close to horizontal bar, so I then started playing around with making the lighthouse larger and then I ran into another problem, the verticals seemed out of place. So I got rid of the quartering lines and exported the pattern as a picture, used that picture as a background. Built the 'wood' frame to approximate size, then positioned the frame over the background and manually traced in each section, starting with the lighthouse and then moved the whole thing over the background until I had the boat and setting sun where I wanted them and traced the rest in. Glasseye makes this part of the task a whole lot easier.

Have the prospective owners seen it yet?
Not yet - want to wait a bit until I get more of the sidelights done.


Getting it right, when cutting it into 4 or whatever piecesis important. That's what ensures that your solder lines flow correctly from one panel to the next, and it dlook like a unit, not four individual pieces.
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My way of doing that is to make the pattern to fit the entire space, then blank out, from between the panes, the appropriate amount required for the mullions (or what ever they are called.).

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