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« on: January 30, 2011, 10:28:45 AM » |
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A few months ago, while browsing eBay and found this window for sale for ten dollars. The seller had a reasonable shipping cost, so I bought it. Below are pictures of just how it arrived, but that is exactly how it was displayed on line, so I knew what I was buying.
I made a pencil rubbing of the pattern, took it all apart and cleaned it. Found out from a friend who does stained glass that toilet bowl cleaner cleans old stained glass. AND IT DOES! I let the pieces soak for a few days to break up the old cement (the piece was lead). Spent an afternoon with rubber gloves and a scrub brush.
Redesigned the size of the window as most of the glass could not be replaced as I don't believe it is made any more. I added a few break lines to the original pattern to accommodate the fact that I had to use scrap from it to make new pieces and the scrap did not have pieces large enough to fit the holes I had.
My creation is smaller in size, foiled instead of lead, and has two "new" pieces of glass I picked to match. They blend in pretty well I think. Overall I think my ten dollar eBay window was a deal!
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2011, 10:45:49 AM » |
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Wow You did an awesome job on this. What a deal and you have a beautiful piece to enjoy.  |
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2011, 10:46:40 AM » |
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Wow...what a save! It's beautiful! I love the design and colors. What a great job you did with it. Congrats!!!!!!    |
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2011, 10:51:35 AM » |
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I agree with Di and Kev, this is awesome and a great deal! I can't tell where you made it smaller/changed it?
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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2011, 10:57:14 AM » |
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Nice that you paid respect to this piece. Nice job and great save.
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2011, 11:04:25 AM » |
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Wow! Great job!
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2011, 11:58:26 AM » |
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Very Cool!!! I admire you ambition to take something like this and make it beautiful again...
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2011, 01:09:05 PM » |
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wow! I would never have thought to do that in a million years. .. a nice way to preserve an old piece.
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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2011, 07:31:13 PM » |
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It's not a repair.
It's not a restoration.
Part re-use. Part recycle.
It's more of a rebirth. Well done!!
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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2011, 07:49:13 PM » |
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very good looking piece nicely done
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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2011, 10:20:20 PM » |
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I think its great!!!!
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Stephen Richard
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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2011, 03:40:42 AM » |
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I wonder what our reasoning was to go from leaded light window to copper foiled window?
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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2011, 07:03:23 AM » |
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I wonder what our reasoning was to go from leaded light window to copper foiled window?
Need there be reasoning? Will preference do? |
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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2011, 09:57:56 AM » |
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"Preference" is still a "reason".
Many of us who've been around a while and work on restoration and repair projects would prefer to use lead on such a piece; I know I would have. Also, lead would have been less work and looked more appropriate for the age of the design and actual panel.
That said, glasisfun did a fine job rehabilitating a bunch of pieces of old glass, the lines and colors look good and it will be enjoyed, I'm sure.
One caution for the hoards of folks who will now decide to try this at home is to be sure to wear at least a dust mask when ripping your panel apart; a hazardous particle respirator would be better. Also, clean your bench often and cautiously while working to keep control of the lead-bearing dust. Many studios do this sort of disassembly in shallow trays of water to keep the dust down. And dispose of your scrap carefully and properly.
- Tod
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« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2011, 02:06:31 PM » |
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I want to add to what Tod said, that often the old putty has lead in it and you don't want to breathe it.
It looks beautiful, Glassisfun and I bet you had a lot of fun doing it! I would be careful using toilet bowl cleaner. I use ammonia. I haven't tried toilet bowl cleaner, so if it worked, great! I have used CLR or Lime Away and etched glass when I didn't want to.
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« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2011, 05:46:35 PM » |
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very simple answer. At the time I had never done any lead work so I did not know how. I picked up the piece as a throw away and thought for the cheap price, if I could not do anything else with it, it would provide me with some experience. I don't sell my pieces, so I am not worried about selling it to anyone. It was great practice and a chance to try some experimenting with little cost involved. I learned a lot and that is what I set out to do.
Thanks for the info on other cleaners. I prefer foil for all the reasons you need to be so careful when using lead. I love that look as well, but just prefer cleaner foil. On this piece I used a lot of precaution and probably went overboard on it, but appreciate all the helpful advise from all of you!
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« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2011, 05:55:23 PM » |
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I do find it amusing that people say that copper foil is safer than lead light. There is a lot less hot lead and tin in leaded glass projects than in the equivalent sized copper foil projects. And it is the heat that creates the fumes.
I have been working full time with lead for over 13 years and have no change to my regularly checked blood/lead levels.
I think with the proper precautions, both methods are equally safe. It is a matter of preference and knowledge.
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« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2011, 07:19:34 PM » |
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I do find it amusing that people say that copper foil is safer than lead light. There is a lot less hot lead and tin in leaded glass projects than in the equivalent sized copper foil projects. And it is the heat that creates the fumes.
I have been working full time with lead for over 13 years and have no change to my regularly checked blood/lead levels.
I think with the proper precautions, both methods are equally safe. It is a matter of preference and knowledge.
I agree that with proper precautions both methods are safe, but you don't have any lead fumes when you solder. You do have to be careful and not breathe the flux fumes when you solder, but not lead. Rebecca |
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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2011, 02:36:04 AM » |
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I do find it amusing that people say that copper foil is safer than lead light. There is a lot less hot lead and tin in leaded glass projects than in the equivalent sized copper foil projects. And it is the heat that creates the fumes.
I have been working full time with lead for over 13 years and have no change to my regularly checked blood/lead levels.
I think with the proper precautions, both methods are equally safe. It is a matter of preference and knowledge.
I agree that with proper precautions both methods are safe, but you don't have any lead fumes when you solder. You do have to be careful and not breathe the flux fumes when you solder, but not lead. Rebecca Why not? Solder contains both lead and tin. The melting point of lead is below the temperature at which lead melts. |
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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2011, 06:56:40 AM » |
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Why not? Solder contains both lead and tin. The melting point of lead is below the temperature at which lead melts.
And what, pray tell, does that have to do with it? Neither lead fumes nor solder fumes are produced by soldering. There's nowhere near high enough temperature to produce fumes. |
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« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2011, 10:25:02 AM » |
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I do find it amusing that people say that copper foil is safer than lead light. There is a lot less hot lead and tin in leaded glass projects than in the equivalent sized copper foil projects. And it is the heat that creates the fumes.
I have been working full time with lead for over 13 years and have no change to my regularly checked blood/lead levels.
I think with the proper precautions, both methods are equally safe. It is a matter of preference and knowledge.
I agree that with proper precautions both methods are safe, but you don't have any lead fumes when you solder. You do have to be careful and not breathe the flux fumes when you solder, but not lead. Rebecca Why not? Solder contains both lead and tin. The melting point of lead is below the temperature at which lead melts. The melting point of lead has nothing to do with fumes. The boiling point would present a problem, but lead doesn't vaporize at the melting point. (Neither does anything else.) Rebecca |
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Stephen Richard
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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2011, 04:05:25 PM » |
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It's not my understanding, but have it your way :-)
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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2011, 04:33:39 PM » |
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It's not my understanding, but have it your way :-)
It's not my way, it's scientific fact. Rebecca |
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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2011, 04:55:09 PM » |
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Really nice save Glasisfun! I love what you did with it, and you're right, your $10.00 (plus shipping) piece is now very much more valuable than what you paid for it.
It looks GREAT!!
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