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« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2011, 05:59:26 PM » |
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Truely, if this was my project, I'd use the method Graham describes, but I don't have a tile saw either. But, I see no reason to be afraid of doing it that way! Should make a nice, clean, straight cut. You'll have to mess with the corners a bit, I think, but not serious.
Congrats on having the wisdom to use lead for the perimeter instead of zinc! - Tod
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« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2011, 06:46:38 PM » |
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I wimped out and used the tile saw, which worked very well. I only had to cut through 8" though. I think if I'd had to cut down the 48" length, I would have used the method that you all described. Thank you everyone for taking the time to give me the real answer. I have no doubt I'll have the opportunity to put it to good use sometime in the future.
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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2011, 08:27:34 AM » |
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I don't think you wimped out - you did something that worked that the rest of us haven't tried. We all learned something! (I wish I had a tile saw.)
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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2011, 08:54:40 AM » |
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I haven't posted much - mostly just lurking, but had to comment on this. What a great experiment and thanks so much for posting the cutting pics. Although I have a tile saw and use it for cutting my china and some glass dishes, I would never have thought to use it like this. Looks like a great solution for your issue!
In addition to the other precautions, if you will be doing a LOT of cutting with the tile saw ~ be sure to use ear protection!
Also, I've never done a stained glass piece for installation, but is there a reason for using a lead perimeter over a zinc perimeter? And, how many of you foil the section of glass that the zinc or lead covers?
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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2011, 09:15:58 AM » |
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Also, I've never done a stained glass piece for installation, but is there a reason for using a lead perimeter over a zinc perimeter?
Lead "H" came is preferred by some, because it can easily be trimmed to fit irregularities in the outer frame or window. For a free hanging piece. hard metal frames, such as zinc are preferred IMHO. And, how many of you foil the section of glass that the zinc or lead covers?
The foiling of the edges covered by frame is un-necessary. I personally don't bother with it, bur when I'm "in the zone" foiling, they usually get foiled, because it's more trouble to remember which edge not to foil.
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« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2011, 05:34:42 PM » |
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And, how many of you foil the section of glass that the zinc or lead covers?
The foiling of the edges covered by frame is un-necessary. I personally don't bother with it, bur when I'm "in the zone" foiling, they usually get foiled, because it's more trouble to remember which edge not to foil. [/quote] Hmm, I made about 8 larger panels for my last show and foiled all edges and tinned the outer edge before adding the zinc. I guess I just shouldn't have wasted that foil and solder. Ok, yes, I can be a little slow sometimes! I wonder why I thought that needed to be done?
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« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2011, 09:12:18 PM » |
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And, how many of you foil the section of glass that the zinc or lead covers?
The foiling of the edges covered by frame is un-necessary. I personally don't bother with it, bur when I'm "in the zone" foiling, they usually get foiled, because it's more trouble to remember which edge not to foil. Hmm, I made about 8 larger panels for my last show and foiled all edges and tinned the outer edge before adding the zinc. I guess I just shouldn't have wasted that foil and solder. Ok, yes, I can be a little slow sometimes! I wonder why I thought that needed to be done? [/quote] Right there with you. It is not wrong to do it, just not needed.
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« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2011, 11:22:16 PM » |
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I've done it out of habit and sometimes not done it when I can remember it's not necessary :)
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« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2011, 06:52:08 AM » |
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I foil all the edges, but don't tin the edges going into the zinc frame.
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« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2011, 08:49:21 AM » |
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Well, I see it's mostly a personal preference and there really is no "right" or "wrong" way!
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« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2011, 12:16:32 PM » |
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Well, I see it's mostly a personal preference and there really is no "right" or "wrong" way!
And that's the way it is with many procedures. If a procedure doesn't work - it's wrong. Otherwise it's not wrong. There may be degrees of right, but they are subject to our own judgement.
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« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2011, 12:36:01 PM » |
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And that's the way it is with many procedures. If a procedure doesn't work - it's wrong. Otherwise it's not wrong. There may be degrees of right, but they are subject to our own judgement.
Hmmmmm......... JUDGEMENT. That's where I keep going wrong. 
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« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2011, 03:31:39 PM » |
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Hmmmmm......... JUDGEMENT. That's where I keep going wrong.  OK, personal preference or opinion?
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« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2011, 08:38:49 PM » |
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Hmmmmm......... JUDGEMENT. That's where I keep going wrong.  OK, personal preference or opinion? I think I'll graciously bow out of this part of the conversation. I'm not sure I've been here long enough to comment 
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« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2011, 02:12:13 PM » |
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Well said, Tanya! ;- }
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