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« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2011, 05:59:26 PM »
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Truely, if this was my project, I'd use the method Graham describes, but I don't have a tile saw either. But, I see no reason to be afraid of doing it that way! Should make a nice, clean, straight cut. You'll have to mess with the corners a bit, I think, but not serious.

Congrats on having the wisdom to use lead for the perimeter instead of zinc! - Tod
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« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2011, 06:46:38 PM »
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I wimped out and used the tile saw, which worked very well. I only had to cut through 8" though. I think if I'd had to cut down the 48" length, I would have used the method that you all described.  Thank you everyone for taking the time to give me the real answer. I have no doubt I'll have the opportunity to put it to good use sometime in the future.
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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2011, 08:27:34 AM »
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I don't think you wimped out - you did something that worked that the rest of us haven't tried.  We all learned something!  (I wish I had a tile saw.)

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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2011, 08:54:40 AM »
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I haven't posted much - mostly just lurking, but had to comment on this.  What a great experiment and thanks so much for posting the cutting pics.  Although I have a tile saw and use it for cutting my china and some glass dishes, I would never have thought to use it like this.  Looks like a great solution for your issue!

In addition to the other precautions, if you will be doing a LOT of cutting with the tile saw ~ be sure to use ear protection!

Also, I've never done a stained glass piece for installation, but is there a reason for using a lead perimeter over a zinc perimeter?  And, how many of you foil the section of glass that the zinc or lead covers?
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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2011, 09:15:58 AM »
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Also, I've never done a stained glass piece for installation, but is there a reason for using a lead perimeter over a zinc perimeter?

Lead "H" came is preferred by some, because it can easily be trimmed to fit irregularities in the outer frame or window. For a free hanging piece. hard metal frames, such as zinc are preferred IMHO.

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  And, how many of you foil the section of glass that the zinc or lead covers?

The foiling of the edges covered by frame is un-necessary. I personally don't bother with it, bur when I'm "in the zone" foiling, they usually get foiled, because it's more trouble to remember which edge not to foil.
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« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2011, 05:34:42 PM »
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  And, how many of you foil the section of glass that the zinc or lead covers?

The foiling of the edges covered by frame is un-necessary. I personally don't bother with it, bur when I'm "in the zone" foiling, they usually get foiled, because it's more trouble to remember which edge not to foil.
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Hmm, I made about 8 larger panels for my last show and foiled all edges and tinned the outer edge before adding the zinc.  I guess I just shouldn't have wasted that foil and solder.  Ok, yes, I can be a little slow sometimes!
I wonder why I thought that needed to be done? 


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« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2011, 09:12:18 PM »
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  And, how many of you foil the section of glass that the zinc or lead covers?

The foiling of the edges covered by frame is un-necessary. I personally don't bother with it, bur when I'm "in the zone" foiling, they usually get foiled, because it's more trouble to remember which edge not to foil.

Hmm, I made about 8 larger panels for my last show and foiled all edges and tinned the outer edge before adding the zinc.  I guess I just shouldn't have wasted that foil and solder.  Ok, yes, I can be a little slow sometimes!
I wonder why I thought that needed to be done? 



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Right there with you.  It is not wrong to do it, just not needed.
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« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2011, 11:22:16 PM »
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I've done it out of habit and sometimes not done it when I can remember it's not necessary :)
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« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2011, 06:52:08 AM »
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I foil all the edges, but don't tin the edges going into the zinc frame.
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« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2011, 08:49:21 AM »
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Well, I see it's mostly a personal preference and there really is no "right" or "wrong" way!
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« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2011, 12:16:32 PM »
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Well, I see it's mostly a personal preference and there really is no "right" or "wrong" way!

And that's the way it is with many procedures. If a procedure doesn't work - it's wrong. Otherwise it's not wrong. There may be degrees of right, but they are subject to our own judgement.
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« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2011, 12:36:01 PM »
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And that's the way it is with many procedures. If a procedure doesn't work - it's wrong. Otherwise it's not wrong. There may be degrees of right, but they are subject to our own judgement.


Hmmmmm.........     JUDGEMENT.


That's where I keep going wrong.   

 Oh Duh
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« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2011, 03:31:39 PM »
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Hmmmmm.........     JUDGEMENT.


That's where I keep going wrong.   

 Oh Duh

OK, personal preference or opinion?
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« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2011, 08:38:49 PM »
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Hmmmmm.........     JUDGEMENT.


That's where I keep going wrong.   

 Oh Duh


OK, personal preference or opinion?


I think I'll graciously bow out of this part of the conversation.  I'm not sure I've been here long enough to comment Evil Grin
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« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2011, 02:12:13 PM »
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Well said, Tanya! ;- }
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