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« on: May 20, 2010, 12:16:14 PM »
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One of my students is making a peony lamp shade.  It is a Worden 13-inch cone.  The bottom edge turns under.  She and I have talked about how to approach this and I think she has that worked out, but I am wondering is we put a brass ring around the bottom edge.  Is this usually done on a style shade that has a couple of border strips that turn under?  Or do you use wire?

It's going to be a couple of more weeks before it is finished, but she had it in class last night and it is going to be beautiful!  This isn't her first Tiffany style shade and she is very meticulous.  And she picked some beautiful glass.  I can't wait to see it with light.  Don't let me forget to take a picture when it is finished.

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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2010, 12:24:00 PM »
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Usually the rule is to use a brass rim (ring) whenever the bottom is regular (flat) and a wire for irregular bottoms.
The tucked shades are always taken off the form in two parts and put together right after.  Then the ring should be tacked on to give the shade additional strength.
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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2010, 01:53:26 PM »
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I thought a ring, but wanted to make sure.  My student, as I said is very meticulous.  She also likes to PLAN every step.  Occasionally, I just have to tell her, "Trust me and we will deal with that next week."  But now she is getting close to adding the "tucked" border, so we talked it to death last night.  She is a dear, but has to talk about something new until she has the picture in her head!

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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2010, 02:05:42 PM »
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Don't let me forget to take a picture when it is finished.
Why wait until its finished - how 'bout progress pictures?
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2010, 02:20:25 PM »
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Remember to take your camera with you! 
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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2010, 04:14:41 PM »
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Rebecca, are you planning on making the lower section out of the two bottom rows and soldering them together but not to the upper section?
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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2010, 05:11:55 PM »
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I can't take pictures because it's at my student's house.  I wanted to take some last night, but I knew it wouldn't show up in a picture well because it was still on the mold.

Yes, Wayne, I think she decided to solder the two bottom rows together, then onto the top section.  Is there a better way to do it?

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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2010, 05:26:57 PM »
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Rebbeca, that is the way to do it.  Sometimes, while it is on the form I solder alignment wires, 16 or 12 ga, which are about 2" or so and are attached to both upper and lower parts.  Then I completely soler the top but never the line between the upper and lower sections.  The lower section can be soldered as best you can from the position she has to work in.  Sometimes I run masking tape over over the connecting sections so that they can not be soldered.  When done un-solder the lower ends of the wires only.

When both sections are off the form, reassemble them and do spend the time aligning them.  When satisfied, tack the wires again to hold it together and then tack all around the joining seam.   When done, add the rim.

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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2010, 05:39:52 PM »
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That's a good picture, Wayne.  Thank you.

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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2010, 05:48:03 PM »
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Thanks Wayne, that is going to be invaluable advice when I get around to working on my dragonfly lampshade, which is a similar issue.

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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2010, 08:43:43 AM »
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Wednesday night my student brought the lamp back and she had taken it off the form and attached the two bottom rows all by herself!  I was so proud!  She isn't finished with the soldering yet and so hasn't patina-ed it, but I took pictures anyway.
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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2010, 08:44:28 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2010, 08:45:25 AM »
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Of course, it was much better looking in person.  We couldn't quit looking at it.
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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2010, 08:50:38 AM »
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looks like she is doing a wonderful job on the lamp Rebecca.  I'll bet you are as proud of her as she is of the lamp
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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2010, 08:59:55 AM »
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That's quite an accomplishment. Im sure the both of you are proud as peacocks, and rightly so....beautiful...so vibrant!
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« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2010, 09:35:40 AM »
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That is awesome and its not even finished. That will be a wonderful lamp for her to be proud of for a long time.
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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2010, 09:36:38 AM »
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Yes, I am proud.  We ALL were envious, too.  She has given a lot of lamps away, but she said she is keeping this one.

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« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2010, 09:39:00 AM »
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I've never tried one.
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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2010, 10:33:25 AM »
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I've never tried one.

It's interesting, Kev.  One day you should do one, in your spare time.

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« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2010, 10:34:45 AM »
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Another pat on the back from me, she inspires me to get going on one.
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