Help? Confirmation? Ideas - Tailgate Bar & Grill

[Kev]

I estimate it to be about 1/16th of an inch...about 1/2 the width of regular glass. Maybe it should have been called "Waffer" glass...lol

[PiscesGlass]

A thought.....

Since this panel will be an interior piece,  why not do the plating and  foil overlays and then frame it in a double routed frame that will allow you to place a piece of clear glass over it to protect the overlays and the plating. It will make it easy for them to clean it, and...if you construct it in a deep frame, you can place a thin wood backing with the glass in front of it, a gap and then the clear glass....much like a shadowbox. You could also put rope lights around the  inside edge between the routed grooves to light it up.

Although this is a really good idea..I was initially going to just put it in a regular routed frame, I have no idea who I could get to build me a custom frame..and I don't have the machinery available to me to do it myself.  I like the idea of the rope lights though..lol.  I need to take a class in woodworking..and then make a friend that has an excellent outfitted shop. LOL.

I definitely need more tools.


De

[Kev]

Why not contact that frame guy via the link that was posted here?

[JoanFrances]

A thought.....

Since this panel will be an interior piece,  why not do the plating and  foil overlays and then frame it in a double routed frame that will allow you to place a piece of clear glass over it to protect the overlays and the plating. It will make it easy for them to clean it, and...if you construct it in a deep frame, you can place a thin wood backing with the glass in front of it, a gap and then the clear glass....much like a shadowbox. You could also put rope lights around the  inside edge between the routed grooves to light it up.

Although this is a really good idea..I was initially going to just put it in a regular routed frame, I have no idea who I could get to build me a custom frame..and I don't have the machinery available to me to do it myself.  I like the idea of the rope lights though..lol.  I need to take a class in woodworking..and then make a friend that has an excellent outfitted shop. LOL.

I definitely need more tools.


De

De, what am I, chopped liver, I have all the tools you need, except the router, which is one I have intended to add, we can go half and then all you need to do is plan a mini vacation, come down and go to work LOL

[PiscesGlass]

Why not contact that frame guy via the link that was posted here?

My understanding was that his family is going through difficulties right now..so I was going to give him/them some time to get life sorted out before I asked for anything.

De

[Kev]

If I lived closer I'd do it for you.

[Glassic]

The specs are on the Diamond Tech site.
http://www.diamondtechglass.com/index.cfm?page=itemView&itemsysid=179962&ViewCAT=1851&startRow=1&returnTo=itemList

[Kev]

Armstrong carries a glass called "Floatfire 82" its a flashed glass of color (many to choose from) and clear base glass. It is quite cheap in price as well.

[PiscesGlass]

Thanks Y, I took a look at the specs on that glass, good find!  I suspect from reading the info there (and also the feedback from Kev and Rebecca) that this glass is just way too delicate for a regular sg panel...

And Kev, thanks also..lol..there is a slight distance between your house and mine.  I could start checking around to see if anyone I know has a table saw..that would be the best way to mfg the frame..perhaps I can find someone with one...I wonder if you can rent them at Home Depot..you can rent everything else? LOL.

Also took a look at the Float Fire 82..no specs there to tell me if it's any thicker than the Wasser though, and it appears to have sort of a wispy or streaky surface? 

I know..don't I sound picky. I think for this application Painting may be just the ticket. 

I do want everyone to know that I absolutely appreciate all the input and help in determining the best method of constructing this piece!  To all of my friends on AOG..I Luv ya for it!

De

[nansea121]

I've never worked with flashed glass before. Very interesting!

http://www.delphiglass.com/sandblasting/flashed-glass/flashed-white-on-amber.html



A link for some Armstrong glass.

http://www.armstrongglass.com/sandblasting.php

[Kev]

At $300.00 a sheet..I think I can live without it...LOL

[Glassic]

I've just checked some FF82 I have, it's not plain but is the same thickness as the Sp96 Cathedrals and a tad thinner than an Uroboros 96 opal.

[nansea121]

At $300.00 a sheet..I think I can live without it...LOL

Expensive, yes. It was the instructions that I thought were interesting.

[PiscesGlass]

I know..looking at some of the pricing on the flashed glass..I nearly had heart failure...I'm wondering how many people actually order and use that stuff at that price.  They must have a call for it or they wouldn't purchase it to sell, but WOW.

Working with flashed glass isn't difficult.  You'd need Resist, which comes in different thicknesses, but the basic Resist is all I've ever used.  Because the projects I've done with sandblasting were pretty basic.  Just numbers or logos really. You want to completely cover the item you're blasting with the resist, apply the pattern to the resist, carbon paper..ball point pen, whatever will give you the outline of the pattern.  You can cut it with an exacto knife, or I have this neat little melting tool I found at one of the craft shops, it melts the pattern line away.  Love that little item...cheap too. 
Then you need the sandblaster, I've only ever used the spray blaster, but many of them come with a pencil blaster for small things.  You just have to remember, it's like using a spray paint can...work from the top down, and swipe the blaster side to side.  And don't keep it in one place for too long..or you could burn right through your Resist.

Thanks Y, I'll see if the shop closest to me (about a 45 min drive) has it, so that I can see what it looks like.  The person this is for might not be too bothered by it not being a solid orange color. 


Thanks for all you help!  De

[Kev]

Did you look at all the choices?....there's about 65

[PiscesGlass]

I thought I did..I didn't see that many? 65?  Holy smokes..I guess someone must use it then, and lots of it.

De

[Kev]

That's the floatfire glass from Armstrong.

Check out this link:

http://www.glayzd.com.au/floatglass.html

[PiscesGlass]

Ahh the lesser expensive model!  Good that there's a bunch of choices in color then!  That seemed fairly affordable.

De

[Alan]

That's the floatfire glass from Armstrong.
Check out this link:
http://www.glayzd.com.au/floatglass.html

Ahh the lesser expensive model!  Good that there's a bunch of choices in color then!  That seemed fairly affordable.
De

Don't forget that those prices are Aussie $ not US $ - the site is down under! What is it going to cost for shipping????

[Kev]

I was using it more as an example of what colors are available.