Prototype design for office window

[Alan]

Been playing around with GlassEye for something to put the east facing window of my computer room/office and this is just one of the ideas - not the best, but I really do like the scenery of Yosemite. Thinking of using the more opalescent rather than transparent glasses. This is supposed to represent the full moon rising over Yosemite shortly before sundown. Thinking of doing it in lead came, mounted in a 2" Walnut framework.

[Kev]

Nice Alan. Question...how are you going to get that moon in there?

[Vic Rothman]

Nice Alan. Question...how are you going to get that moon in there?

use a diamond hole saw,cut te glass. Lift the part of the came channel that will cover the moon up put the came in the hole. Drop in the moon, and fold down the flange

[Kev]

Good idea Vic.

[Alan]

Nice Alan. Question...how are you going to get that moon in there?

use a diamond hole saw,cut te glass. Lift the part of the came channel that will cover the moon up put the came in the hole. Drop in the moon, and fold down the flange

Since the window is 59"wide by 47" tall EACH quarter of the window is about 26"wide and 20 1/2" tall - that makes the moon about 8" - is is only the prototype for the overall pattern - not many of the details are in it just yet. Don't think I near enough pennies to get a diamond hole saw that is 8" in diameter  , but I do appreciate your method of getting it into place - I would have never thought of that.

[Graham]

Or incorporate a couple of wisps of cloud to justify  a couple of relief lines.

[ct4mom]

wow thats a big window....Nice design Alan

[Anne]

ok Alan, now heres's your excuse to finish that bench! It is a big window.  I like Graham's idea of the wispy clouds being as your moon is so big.

[JoanFrances]

Nice Alan.  I am looking forward to seeing what you come up with for the final pattern

[Wayne]

I agree with Vic when using one piece for the hole use the lead as stated.  I don't consider foiling the hole an option since it never has the nice round look. 

When the center is a design made up of pieces then you can first install the lead and then assemble the pieces in the center.  Again, lead gives the right look.

[Audrey]

Wow, looking forward to seeing this one. You will figure it out. Lead would be great for this.

[TodB]

Alan:
Here's another 2¢ vote for the inserted moon using lead. I also like a flat H for this application. It's not really that hard. You can score the circle and break it out. Practice first. Have fun. - Tod

[Judy K]

Wow, I never would have thought of that. Is the background glss strong after having a hole cut in the center? An unplanned crack later seems like a risk that planning a cut line or two would remove. Am I wrong?

[Vic Rothman]

Wow, I never would have thought of that. Is the background glss strong after having a hole cut in the center? An unplanned crack later seems like a risk that planning a cut line or two would remove. Am I wrong?

where is the challenge in that?

[Vic Rothman]

Why didn't you say so. Score 3 circles 1/2" apart at 8",7 1/2" and 7". Use a circle cutter. Run all 3 scores. Score hatch lines in the center circle and break it out. Next score hatches in the 1/2" circle. Start the score just a bit short of the 8" score and go to the center hole. Break out the glass. Now you should have 1 BIG hole

[Stephen Richard]

As you work this up toward full size, I think you are going to need to add more detail.  The glass pieces could be very large otherwise.  Details will provide interest and, if designed appropriately, provide some additional durability.

Keep in mind that stained glass (without painting) is a graphic medium.  Exact representation is not required, just the feel of the place.

steve

[Elizabeth]

Even though I don't do windows/lead projects,  finding this a very interesting amd informative thread!  Thanks guys!   Looking forward to seeing your final design - and finished product, Alan!

[Rebecca]

Wow, I never would have thought of that. Is the background glss strong after having a hole cut in the center? An unplanned crack later seems like a risk that planning a cut line or two would remove. Am I wrong?

Not really.  A circle is the strongest shape to cut out.  If it is too close to the edge of the glass it will put some stress on the glass, but out in the middle it is pretty strong.  An angle is weak because the sharp corner is a "stress riser."  If you round the corner, it lessens the stress tremendously.

Rebecca

[Judy K]

Wow, I never would have thought of that. Is the background glss strong after having a hole cut in the center? An unplanned crack later seems like a risk that planning a cut line or two would remove. Am I wrong?

where is the challenge in that?

Right! 

Thanks , good info

[Graham]

If it cracks, you go to "plan b", which involves designing in a couple of wispy clouds using the cracks for direction.